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SquareEyes



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all BS. The chances of any of us knowing exactly what happened are zero.

Makes no sense to me to just shoot him on sight. If I were powerful & ruthless, and he really was an enemy, I'd have tried a touch of forced persuasion for a while, just to see if anything he said might have been worthwhile (but extreme persuasion is unreliable, at best). Fortunately, I'm not in charge of stuff like this. For the sake of his humanity, I hope he died quickly (if he's dead).

BTW, this "burial at sea" ploy - most excellent excuse never to have to be bothered with questions about identity, whilst still seeming plausible about not wanting a shrine. Smart thinking.
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Kezza
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Now What? Reply with quote

I'm not trying to make a flippant comment within this rather serious thread, but .....

I was wondering: does this mean that we

(1) can now bring items containing more than 5 ounces of liquid (120 ml) on a plane AND/OR

(2) can keep our shoes on when going through airport security?

Just asking.....
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Bob



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naaa...security is going to go up if anything...
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the liquid limits were removed from British airports recently. The people who were part of that plot were jailed
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luke



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a 15 minute interview with Alex Jones on TalkSPORT last night...

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luke



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generation WTF?: Thousands of Teenagers Ask, "Who Is Osama?"



Bush was in Florida reading The Pet Goat to a group of second-grade children when the planes hit the towers, meaning a classroom of seven and eight year-old kids was witness to one of the most important moments in American political history. Those kids might want to shake some sense into the rest of their generation, which yesterday turned en masse to the internet and asked, "Who is Osama bin Laden?"

According to new data from Yahoo's search blog, searches related to Osama bin Laden have jumped nearly 10,000 percent since Sunday's killing of the terrorist leader. And while most of the queries are from people somewhat in the know—"How did Osama bin Laden die?"—the fifth most popular Osama search is "Who is Osama bin Laden?"

Though he was one of the most important criminals in the world for the last decade, a significant number of people searching Yahoo have no idea who Osama bin Laden was. Thankfully, most of these people are children—two-thirds are aged 13 to 17—but, considering how the entire nation mourns every September 11, it seems a bit outrageous that even young kids don't know Osama.

This raises the question: Is it possible that children are learning about 9/11 but not about the people and organizations behind 9/11? And if so, is it any wonder that many Americans now make blanket condemnations of Islam instead of placing the blame for terrorism where it lies—with fringe rogues like bin Laden?

http://www.good.is/post/generation-wtf-thousands-of-teenagers-ask-who-is-osama/?utm_source=supr
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:49 pm    Post subject: USA, USA, Fail... Reply with quote



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Well played New York, Subwayers...
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PostPosted: Sat May 07, 2011 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noam Chomsky: My Reaction to Osama bin Laden’s Death
We might ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. Bush’s compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic.

It’s increasingly clear that the operation was a planned assassination, multiply violating elementary norms of international law. There appears to have been no attempt to apprehend the unarmed victim, as presumably could have been done by 80 commandos facing virtually no opposition—except, they claim, from his wife, who lunged towards them. In societies that profess some respect for law, suspects are apprehended and brought to fair trial. I stress “suspects.” In April 2002, the head of the FBI, Robert Mueller, informed the press that after the most intensive investigation in history, the FBI could say no more than that it “believed” that the plot was hatched in Afghanistan, though implemented in the UAE and Germany. What they only believed in April 2002, they obviously didn’t know 8 months earlier, when Washington dismissed tentative offers by the Taliban (how serious, we do not know, because they were instantly dismissed) to extradite bin Laden if they were presented with evidence—which, as we soon learned, Washington didn’t have. Thus Obama was simply lying when he said, in his White House statement, that “we quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda.”

Nothing serious has been provided since. There is much talk of bin Laden’s “confession,” but that is rather like my confession that I won the Boston Marathon. He boasted of what he regarded as a great achievement.

There is also much media discussion of Washington’s anger that Pakistan didn’t turn over bin Laden, though surely elements of the military and security forces were aware of his presence in Abbottabad. Less is said about Pakistani anger that the U.S. invaded their territory to carry out a political assassination. Anti-American fervor is already very high in Pakistan, and these events are likely to exacerbate it. The decision to dump the body at sea is already, predictably, provoking both anger and skepticism in much of the Muslim world.

We might ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. Bush’s compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic. Uncontroversially, his crimes vastly exceed bin Laden’s, and he is not a “suspect” but uncontroversially the “decider” who gave the orders to commit the “supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole” (quoting the Nuremberg Tribunal) for which Nazi criminals were hanged: the hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, destruction of much of the country, the bitter sectarian conflict that has now spread to the rest of the region.

There’s more to say about [Cuban airline bomber Orlando] Bosch, who just died peacefully in Florida, including reference to the “Bush doctrine” that societies that harbor terrorists are as guilty as the terrorists themselves and should be treated accordingly. No one seemed to notice that Bush was calling for invasion and destruction of the U.S. and murder of its criminal president.

Same with the name, Operation Geronimo. The imperial mentality is so profound, throughout western society, that no one can perceive that they are glorifying bin Laden by identifying him with courageous resistance against genocidal invaders. It’s like naming our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Tomahawk… It’s as if the Luftwaffe were to call its fighter planes “Jew” and “Gypsy.”

There is much more to say, but even the most obvious and elementary facts should provide us with a good deal to think about.
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Obama on “60 Minutes:” A political assessment
10 May 2011
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