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faceless admin
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: Richard Dawkins - The Genius of Darwin |
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Here's Dawkins on today's Richard and Judy promoting his new 3-part series on Charles Darwin which starts this evening. (apologies for the audio lag in this stream)
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Twirley
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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That looks really interesting. I'm always fascinated by Darwin and his ideas. I think it's the geologist/anthropologist in me...!! Hopefully, we'll get to see it over here soon.
Thanks for posting the link, Face. |
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nekokate
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Nice one, Face. I likes old Dicky Dawkins. His documentary about spiritualism and supernatural stuff was great - he showed those charlatans.
Are you going to be capping the series? It will be on 4oD for people in the UK to download, obviously, so I might check it out from there. |
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faceless admin
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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I will be capping it for sure - I'll have it available later. |
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Twirley
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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faceless wrote: | I will be capping it for sure - I'll have it available later. |
Now...you are an evolved human being - kindness exudes from you! Thanks. |
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faceless admin
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Twirley wrote: | faceless wrote: | I will be capping it for sure - I'll have it available later. |
Now...you are an evolved human being - kindness exudes from you! Thanks. |
no problem - here's one in the eye for creationists!
I've done it in 2 parts for uploading speed.
Part 1 : http://www.humyo.com/F/56153-173781543
Part 2: http://www.humyo.com/F/56153-173790567
(the streams go out of sync if you watch online, but download version is fine) |
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faceless admin
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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God's revenge on Darwin? Dawkins
AA Gill
10/08/2008
Sunday Times
Next year is the 200th anniversary of the birth of Charles Darwin. For a person who was never a member of the Groucho Club and never owned a production company, Darwin has been responsible for an enormous amount of television: nature programmes, police and medical dramas, reality shows. It will also be the 150th anniversary of his reluctant publication of The Origin of Species, a book that not only changed the world, but also explained it. Television likes an anniversary, and this is a particularly auspicious one, for our greatest scientist and arguably Britain’s pre- eminent original thinker. Unlike the ideas of Newton or Hobbes or Adam Smith, natural selection is clearly understandable and explainable. And the path that led to The Origin of Species is properly exciting. In fact, it is probably one of the few significant scientific discoveries of the past two centuries that is accessible to everyone, as well as affecting everyone.
So, Darwin deserves a landmark, flog-it-round-the-world showcase series. And, just as obviously, the natural selection for a presenter should be David Attenborough. In survival of the fittest, there is no second best: there are just winners and lunch. Richard Dawkins is lunch. In fairness, Darwin is his thing, his fundamental belief; he has been a devoted acolyte of the great bearded ape all his life. His day job is Oxford professor of science PR, so being asked to make the defining series on his hero was a big opportunity that he grasped with both hands — then dropped. Maybe it was nerves, perhaps he’s just too emotionally involved, but the first episode of The Genius of Charles Darwin (Monday, C4) left Dawkins blinking in the headlights.
It also revealed a sorry truth. He is much happier, and much more accomplished at, knocking things down than building them. He’d rather be against something than for it. Confronting a class of quiet, respectful, eager and religious schoolchildren, he became tongue-tied and muddled about selling evolution. He was much happier attacking religion. His anger and bombast stand in stark contrast to Darwin’s quiet, inquisitive humility. Darwin was a gentle man who thought deeply and went out of his way to avoid confrontation or to incommode others. Tellingly, he managed to live his entire life with a devout Christian.
This was a great opportunity for a lush, life-affirming, invigorating series, but what we got was a confused liturgical spat. Much of the blame must fall to the producer, who really should have made sure there was a far more rigorous and inspiring script. In the end, the wisest and most memorable observation came from the mouth of a schoolboy. After a day on the Jurassic coast, discovering ammonites, he said that yes, he believed in evolution, then paused and, with a faint smile, added: “But I’ll still say my prayers.”
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I noticed the difference in Dawkins style as compared to when he is putting something down, but I thought he did ok really. The first half of episode one could probably have done without so much focus on those schoolkids, but by the second half it became a lot more intersting. I'll be watching the other episodes and have them available in this thread as and when they're shown... |
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Twirley
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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I really enjoyed the first episode, but then again I don't need to be convinced about Darwin's theories and speculation. I enjoyed Dawkins' presentation but I also felt he could have left the schoolkids out of it. I will mention this series to my Geology professor as I think she'd find it interesting.
I look forward to the next episode. Thanks for posting this, Face! |
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nekokate
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Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Twirley
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Ha ha ha - like it Kate! I'm glad it depicts a man and not a woman...now that would be quite different...!! |
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faceless admin
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Twirley wrote: | I'm glad it depicts a man and not a woman...now that would be quite different...!! |
the reason he's so bent over at the computer is probably because the woman has told him she'll kill him if he puts it up!
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faceless admin
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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here's the third and final episode
Part 1
Part 2 |
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nekokate
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you so much for uploading these, Face. Brilliant series of programmes. |
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faceless admin
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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no worries, I really enjoyed it myself. I swear Dawkins wanted to slap the science-teacher in the third episode square ion the jaw - and I wouldn't have blamed him... |
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