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haha, excellent - the girl in the background having a sly puff caps it off nicely! But hold up, she looks BROWN. Call the cultural police and have her arrested and deported back to ungo bongo land immediately! |
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nekokate
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Location: West Yorkshire, UK
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Aja wrote: | ROFLMAO I bet you wouldn't mind having that forced on you at school  But in all honesty kate
Rasta has its different sects too
here is just a quick read
http://www.jamaicans.com/culture/rasta/rasta_sects.shtml
theres some good links there too.....if u want to know more .....My Fella knows all there is to know |
Cool. I'll give that a read, Aja 
| faceless wrote: | | The general consensus is that the forbidding of pig is based on its prevalence to spoiling early, but it is one of the 2 items in Islam which I've found, so far, isn't described precisely. |
According to Hitch in "God is not Great" (yeah, I know he's not popular around these parts, but I've no reason to disbelieve this) the forbidding of pork also developed in part due to its association to humanness. Pigs being slaughtered sound like humans being slaughtered; many of a pig's internal organs are almost identical to a human's; pork apparently tastes very much like human flesh and cannibals often referred to human meat as 'long pig'.
| Shillax wrote: | | There have been numerous cases where Muslims have refused to remove their Burkhas during court proceedings... |
You're mad! I imagine a woman refusing to remove her burqua would be because she'd be stood there in her underwear if she did. If you mean hijab or niqab, however, then perhaps there have been "numerous" cases of that, although I'm unaware of any specific examples. But even assuming numerous might mean "between five and ten", how can that statistic validly be used to attack Islam in general? How many Muslims appeared in court and were perfectly obedient by comparison? Let's face it: every creed and culture has its trouble-makers and Islam is definitely not excluded from that, but you're falling for the Right-wing media's tactic of highlighting every single occurance of crime by a Muslim in order to drip, drip, drip into people's consciousness that it's always "the Muslims" that are up to no good. It's the same reason lots of people see a black person and think they're going to be mugged, or see a group of schoolchildren and think they're going to vandalise a carpark or bus-shelter, ignoring the countless number of decent blacks and decent kids who don't do things like that.
| Shillax wrote: | | A Christian wears a cross at the airport and is fired. |
She was suspended with pay due to an idiotic "executive decision" by some BA suits. This is fresh in my mind, actually, because I was recently corrected by Mandy for a similar miscomprehension in another thread regarding this story. The decision was reversed and she returned to work. Again - it was a debarcle but certainly nothing you could pin on "the Muslims". I don't get how stupid decisions by corporations are the fault of a religious minority.
| Shillax wrote: | | When Englishmen are nervous about flying the English flag on national holidays in case it offends some foreigner or another, you gotta ask yourself, what did we win the war for? |
I ask myself "Why are they nervous?" Who are these nervous Englishmen? I don't know anyone who is scared to fly a flag, in fact I see lots of flags of St George in and around Leeds where I live - and we have a very significant Muslim and Sikh population here. They even let it slide when we celebrate Christmas!
| Shillax wrote: | | And oh those poor Palestinians, the same day of the World Trade Center we saw video of them celebrating in the streets of Jerusalem, crying tears of joy over the loss of American life. |
You're referring to a very famous piece of totally debunked footage that still lives on in neo-con-land. I think it was John Pilger (although I can't remember - I might try and look it up after I post this, actually) who I heard speaking about the footage and he said the camera was closed in very tightly on a group of Arabs dancing around about the time of 9/11. The bit that was cut from the footage was when the camera opened out and showed there was only about 12 of them in an otherwise deserted square, and the originator of the footage can't actually say with certainty that it was the terror attacks they were celebrating. Again, you're taking isolated, relatively trivial events that involve small numbers of Muslims and using their bad behaviour - or implied, out of context behaviour - to attack an entire religion.
Another example of this you might remember was when Gillian Gibbons was being held in Karthoum due to an ill-conceived over-reaction by the Sudanese authorities regarding a fluffy little teddy-bear. A couple of thousand of the more pious Muslims in the area decided to have a demonstration to show their distaste, and about fifty of them were complete idiots who started shouting she should be killed. Some of those fifty had brought along blunt ceremonial machetes from their houses to wave around - because they were idiots. Of course, the BBC reported the event along the lines of "Thousands of rabid Muslims scream for death of scholteacher and savagely wave swords!" because as we know, if you find out what the most extreme one was doing and exagerate it, then that's what they were all doing - that's reporting. |
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Aja
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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haha, excellent - the girl in the background having a sly puff caps it off nicely! But hold up, she looks BROWN. Call the cultural police and have her arrested and deported back to ungo bongo land immediately! |
I just want to know where you got that picture Luke ... As Kat would say HIRRARIOUS |
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luke
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Aja wrote: | | I just want to know where you got that picture Luke |
just go into any school and similair scenes are being repeated everywhere  i've no idea - i've got this folder of all sorts of pics and stuff that i've been emailed or i've saved off the net, i just happened to see it last night when looking for something and thought it would fit in well here
| Aja wrote: | | As Kat would say HIRRARIOUS |
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shillax
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| I don't get red faced. Nor am I the brainwashed one. |
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luke
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| shillax wrote: | | I don't get red faced. Nor am I the brainwashed one. |
nor have you addressed anyones points ... |
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| shillax wrote: | | I don't get red faced. Nor am I the brainwashed one. |
ok then - in what way am I brainwashed? I don't believe in anything other than people. I have studied Islam at depth and remain at best a Deist and at worst an agnostic. I also understand that your rhetoric is exactly that used by BNP and more extreme people in the Orange Order. The snide implication about Catholic priests being child-molesters for example - 2 of my uncles are priests, so you've not only insulted a whole faith, but my family too.
If you answer the questions that have been asked of you in this thread that will make things clearer for everyone. You can of course just admit (to yourself as much as us) that you know nothing of value about the implications of any religion, and we'll leave it at that. |
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