David Davis...

[Brown Sauce]

thanks for the clarification both, that really stinks.

Hey, maybe they'll put Tim Martin up as the Noo Labor candidate. He'd fit in nicely with the rest of the scumbags

[nekokate]

[luke]

[Comsatangel]

A total fucking prick. Yet another idiot who believes that this law applies only to those with dark skin and of Islamic persuasion. When will these fuckwits realise that this could apply to any one of us. From frail pensioners demonstrating against the closure of their village post offices, to students checking out a load of books on islamic fundamentalism from their local library to write a politics and history paper.

It is the government of the day which will decide who or what constitutes a terrorist. Who knows who will be in charge in 20years. These are not disimilar to the powers that Hitler awarded himself on becoming chancellor of Germany.

[faceless]

It's at times like this that the internet stops being a useful method for sharing information and becomes an albatross round our necks.

I'm surprised that Chakrabarti has bothered her arse on this as it seems such a snide and petty accusation.

[Mandy]

Is The Independent s..t stirring in this article ? I got the impression the above article is sensationalising and propagating the rumour / gossip - and dressing it up as investigative journalism.

This isn't any fault of the internet .. but the main stream media (The Independent) giving a platform for such gossip.

Indeed, there is almost no chance Shami would resort to legal action in these circumstances.

There have been a number of recent articles in the The Independent which show a marked right wing shift. I will consider above as another example.

[faceless]

I think you're probably right Mandy - they seem to float with the breeze rather than having a reliable attitude. Here's a follow-up to the story.

Deputy Labour leader Harriet Harman 'ordered Minister to apologise to Shami'
By Daily Mail Reporter
21st June 2008

Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman told embattled Culture Secretary Andy Burnham to apologise for smearing a civil liberties campaigner about her relationship with Tory David Davis. Sources close to Mr Burnham told The Mail on Sunday that Miss Harman advised him that the best way to end the controversy was to say sorry to director of Liberty Shami Chakrabarti.

He wrote to Miss Chakrabarti on Friday, saying he had meant no offence - but stopped short of a full apology. Mr Burnham had been attacked by MPs from all parties for claiming Miss Chakrabarti shared 'late-night, hand-wringing, heart-melting phone calls' with Mr Davis in their joint campaign against the Government's plan to detain terror suspects for up to 42 days without trial.

Publicly, Miss Harman defended Mr Burnham's response, but The Mail on Sunday understands that, privately, she took a much tougher stance.

Former Shadow Home Secretary Mr Davis is forcing a by-election in his Haltemprice and Howden seat in East Yorkshire. He and Miss Chakrabarti, both happily married to other people, have denied any improper relationship.

[luke]

david ickes standing as well!

[nekokate]

I love how David Icke always says of his ridiculous actions "Of course people will ridicule me, but that just proves blah, blah, blah..."

You could say that about anything. It's a pseudo-intellectual version of a get out of jail free card. The BNP use exactly the same tactic. "Of course the majority hate us! Let them hate us! Blah fucking blah!"

I wonder what's worse? Lizards or niggers?

[luke]

where did you read that neko? it says 'Yes, of course, the mainstream media will ridicule me, but so what's new?' - where does he say that proves anything? where has he ever said him being ridiculed proves anything?

[faceless]

If we had a two-party state and it was either Ickey or the BNP, I'd vote lizards every time!

[nekokate]

[luke]

i guess you'd have to lump me in with those without a brain then - i quite like david icke

[faceless]

[nekokate]

What do you make of GGs ridiculing of Ickey then? I kind of approve of it. I think people need to be steered away from people like him because he dilutes the credibility of left-wing thought. There might be a lot of truth to some of the other things he talks about, but there are plenty of other people who talk about those things without then going "...and shape-shifting lizard overlords from outer-space are taking over the world". People like Chomsky and Gore Vidal.

Frankly, even if a guy was saying some things that made sense but he was walking around on stilts with a pair of underpants on his head, I'd be rather embarrassed to be listening to him and I'd seek out someone with similar ideas but wearing a suit.