Is my enemy's enemy my friend?

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China's not going anywhere, get used to it
George Galloway
Apr 14 2008

OF course the real reason for the growing western resentment against China is that she is doing well. Real well. In just 60 years, China has lifted more people out of poverty than any country in the history of Man. Not just my view, but that of the British Foreign Secretary David Miliband. China is already a superpower, and will soon, in our lifetime, be the greatest power on earth.

For the people who even theorised their intention - in the project for the New American Century - to make the USA the predominant power for another 100 years, this sticks in the throat like a roasted calf's brain at a Chinese banquet. Anything will do to try and weaken China, whether it's human rights, Tibet, the rights of Muslims in Sinkiang province, or the rural practice of dancing circus bears.

But none of it will succeed. Just like Russia, slowly but steadily rebuilding its wealth, prestige and strength, China with India, Asia generally, and hopefully, the continent of Europe will pilot the course towards a new multi-polar world. The days of the US Empire, like the British before it, are drawing to a close. Get over it. Empires never last, thank God, and a world with a single power like we've seen over the last 20 years is un-natural.

Let's love America, land of George Clooney, Michael Moore, Muhammad Ali and Smokey Robinson. But let's make it a more dignified love than the one Miss Lewinsky bore for William Jefferson Clinton.

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I've only just seen this bit of Galloway's Daily Record column from two weeks ago... that first line about people being basically jealous of China is just bollocks. It's the same line that American neo-cons use when they talk about why so many people hate American foreign policy, and it's simply not true. I hold China's government in contempt as much as I hold Israel or America's governments in contempt - for their bastardly human-rights records. Simple as that. To fog the issue with materialistic meaning is an insult to those who have been tortured and killed.

"China has lifted more people out of poverty than any country in the history of Man" - I've no idea if this is true, but I do know it's true that China has killed more of its own people than any other country in the last 60 years.

Is GG defending China simply because it annoys neo-cons? And wouldn't that put him in the position of using the old 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' approach?

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Good point, Face. I'm with you on this one (stop the presses, har har).

He has the same attitude to gay rights in Iran, too. People can't possibly actually care about a handful of homos with broken necks twisting in the breeze, it has to be banging of war-drums. Even if you're a staunch anti-war "loony leftie" like Tatchell, it doesn't matter.

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He should run things past us just to keep him in check! haha

[Mandy]

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Two words answer all your questions 'Cultural Revolution'. This thread is about the murderous cunts that have and continue to run the Chinese government coupled with the sad irony of Galloway using the 'My enemy's enemy is my friend' line to attack the American government over Afghanistan, while using the very same principle here - unless of course Galloway is a real friend of China?

The reason I used 60 years as a scale was because that was the number that Galloway used. Maybe you should read what he said before just leaping to his defence...

[Mandy]

Regarding the 'Cultural Revolution' :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Four

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I still blame the English power-base for the Highland Clearances - 200 years later. Should I just forgive them for their murderous rampages now that time has moved on? The power base remains the same in all but name.

But that's by the by - the case here is that the Chinese government is based purely on dynastic power. They are not deserving of any socialists' support because they are not about the people, they are about the power and an obvious threat to human-rights.