Obama's Race Speech ......

Aja · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: Obama's Race Speech ......

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/18/obama-race-speech-read-t_n_92077.html

faceless · admin Joined: 25 Apr 2006

it stopped working for me at about 10 minutes, but I was getting bored of the patriotic bollocks by then anyway... still, he is going for the job of #1 Patriot I suppose!

Aja · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject:

smiles I read the speech ..... I think he had a lot of good things to say ......Things that made sense to me after living here for 15/16 years ..... Smile

Aja · Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:40 am Post subject:

maybe we should move this to Galloway ??

nekokate · Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: West Yorkshire, UK

I finished listening to his audiobook "The Audacity of Hope" a few days ago. I also think he has a lot of good things to say, Aja. I'm 100% behind him Smile

You can get that audiobook in the downloads section if you want it.

Salim201 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007

i'd rather listen to ulysses read by francis maude

til661 · Joined: 11 Feb 2007

I haven't been particularly enamoured with some things related to Barack's campaign but that was truly superb. A Liberal with courage is a desperately needed thing right now.

nekokate · Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: West Yorkshire, UK

There was a tiny part of this speech I didn't care for much, but only a tiny part. When he talked about people blaming the trouble on "our stalwart allies such as Israel rather than radical Islamist extremism"

But without saying shit like that, he would have no chance of becoming the president, so it's all good. He's the best candidate, even if he's not perfect.

til661 · Joined: 11 Feb 2007

As you said...You can't have everything Smile

I think this is an issue with the Liberal left in a more general sense, in that we lack the same cohesive spirit of those on the right, who will put aside small qualms to at least after elections. We tend to sacrifice 8 out of 10 things that will be better to protest against the two things that aren't. Of course, this can be a good thing in an idealist world, but in real-politik it is somewhat of a hindrance.

Aja · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject:

I am not a Citizen of the USA .....but I have lived here forever ......And I think OBAMA is Their best bet ......

Aja · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject:

nekokate · Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: West Yorkshire, UK

til661 · Joined: 11 Feb 2007

faceless · admin Joined: 25 Apr 2006

But the left is a far wider spectrum - because it's, in essence, the rich against the poor. There's a lot more of the 'poor', so therefore more of a divide, whereas the 'rich' have at their heart the protection of their money and will close ranks to protect it.

Some of the left would happily become the right if they had the money, and I'm sure a lot of the right would be happy with a more social situation if they accepted that the understanding they've received is not correct.

Meanwhile in utopia...

major.tom · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:55 am Post subject:

But the right side of the spectrum is not the exclusive domain of the rich. I know many working-class folks who are right-wing, anti-union, or care more about sports than what's happening in the ~75% of the world that is populated by people who aren't European descendants.

I blame the media and our schools. We don't really learn history except in neatly packaged sound-bites. But sometimes these opinions are just handed down from parents to children. So it's a difficult cycle to break out of.