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Here's something I found on a conspiracy site about Hal Turner...
| Quote: | From Henri Makows website
By Richard Evans
Recently two individuals hacked the email database of an infamous internet radio talk show celebrity named Hal Turner. What Turner's own emails revealed was first made public when the hackers posted them on Turner's own internet forum.
Subsequently Turner removed his web site, leaving a notice which implies the host pulled the site as part of a persecution conspiracy against him.
Turner, in the midst of rising rising fame as a poster boys for home grown extremists, has folded up shop. http://halturnershow.com
What happened?
"On Jan. 1, unidentified hackers electronically confronted Turner in the forum of his website for "The Hal Turner Show." After a heated exchange, they told Turner that they had successfully hacked into his server and found correspondence with an FBI agent who is apparently Turner's handler. Then they posted an alleged July 7 e-mail to the agent in which Turner hands over a message from someone who sent in a death threat against Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.).
"Once again," Turner writes to his handler, "my fierce rhetoric has served to flush out a possible crazy." In what is allegedly a portion of another E-mail, Turner discusses the money he is paid."
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/01/11/n...orking-for-fbi/
Hal Turner, rising in fame as the most blatant hate talk radio host, self-proclaimed neo-nazi, antisemite, racist who hinted at the need to eradicate Jews - turns out to have been fronting a typical FBI COINTELPRO sting operation.
The only question is, was Turner really the extremist racist scum bag he'd portrayed for at least ten years. Was he just an FBI informer because they'd cut him a deal for something they had on him? Or had he always been an undercover agent, who developed this persona and reputation over many years ?
In one of the hacked emails to one of two FBI handlers, shaug@fbi.gov; Len Nerbetski, "Subject: Threat to Kill Senator Feingold of Wisconsin on July 4", Turner closes with this:
"> Please acknowledge receipt of this warning. Of late, both of
> you have become remiss in acknowledging e-mails.
>
> HT"
Special Agent Nerbetski wrote an excuse:
"I think you forget that I no longer have my
> blackberry and thus no real-time link to the email. I have to be
> logged on to a server to access it. As you know, I don;t have
> one growing out of my ass...Some emails require no comment..."
In another email in this thread, Turner expresses concern about not receiving acknowledgment of when he'd be paid for the tip.
I can only extrapolate, but it read to me that Turner's FBI handlers were already distancing themselves and may have been in the process of hanging him out to dry.
The hackers that obtained and distributed Turner's damning emails haven't identified themselves, and the FBI and New Jersey State Police aren't looking for them. It's only a guess, but it's not out of the question that the FBI were done with Turner and shut him down. Either way, good riddance.
But there's more to the story than it's face value. Who was Hal Turner...Really?
The Hal Turner 'story' as a public malcontent begins nearly twenty years ago, to the early 1990's.
The making of a cointelpro talk show host:
"Identifying himself as "Hal from North Bergen", he achieved notoriety in local conservative circles as a frequent caller to the WABC-AM radio talk show hosted by Bob Grant.[1] Turner parlayed this fame into a role as the northern New Jersey coordinator for Patrick J. Buchanan's 1992 presidential campaign. He went on to serve as campaign manager for Libertarian Murray Sabrin in a number of campaigns in New Jersey in the 1990s, including a 1997 gubernatorial campaign.[2][3] (cited from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner )
"After Bob Grant's program was taken off the air for racist content, Turner established a friendship with his replacement, Sean Hannity, ands frequently appeared on his program. Turner then became a talk radio host himself, joining fellow regular callers Frank from Queens and John from Staten Island to start the program The Right Perspective.[4]shortwave radio station WBCQ. Turner left the program in 2002, citing artistic differences. In 2002, Turner became a solo host."
I do recall Pat Buchanan's run for Republican nomination for President during 1992, and I remember the campaign failed due to ABC, NBC, and CBS innuendos that Buchanan was supposedly sympathetic to racists and fascists. Well it's small wonder, since none other than Hal Turner had managed to get into the position of north New Jersey campaign coordinator. The question is: Was Hal Turner associated with the FBI back then? Was he used to undermine Buchanan?
On the other hand, if Turner had been groomed all these years as an FBI asset, why would they suddenly blow his cover?
It's only speculation, Sean Hannity's current rise in the pantheon of FOX right wing rant talk show hosts may be a factor. It wouldn't do to have Turner become America's most famous nazi, and his association with Hannity back in the WABC-AM days go public in a big way.
http://www.savethemales.ca/
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| faceless wrote: | I removed a link to fund raising for this guy - the minute this site becomes a funding source for a bastard conservative is the day I shut it down!
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