bin ladens latest video

[luke]

i've not watched it yet but it looks like its the whole thing

[faceless]

nice one, but I've made it a bit bigger as the subtitles are pretty small

[Mandy]

Thanks Luke. I can't help looking for a "© Black Ops 2007" mark on the video, not least since the US says they believe the "producer" was a US citizen who fled to Pakistan.

Some parts of the speech (about the economy, mortgages, interest rates etc) are straight out of the left-of-center politics. Makes we wonder if this video is intended to frighten people away from left-of-center politics (so they don't sound like Bin Laden)

http://www.newshounds.us/2007/09/08/hannity_says_bin_laden_sounds_like_democrats_twice.php

**can't embed since it redirects

[Mandy]

Face, from a technical viewpoint, any comments on this ?

Can you debunk it ?

[faceless]

I've not looked at it that closely, but I reckon the only way to be certain would be to analyse the audio track and compare it with previous recordings that are known to be him. I'm moving this into conspiracies though as it has little to do with Galloway.

[Mandy]

2nd video out today -- again with the weird frozen still video.



One paragraph was especially strong :
"So I tell every young man among the youth of Islam: it is your duty to join the caravan [of martyrs] until the sufficiency is complete and the march to aid the High and Omnipotent continues."

This is great PR stuff to the neo-cons who want a clash of civilisation.
If you were into black-ops, could you script anything "better" to demonise Muslims ?

[faceless]

[Mandy]

[luke]

thats what i don't get, how have the americans got this video before it was released by the jihadi websites? i mean, if the american intelligence services have infiltrated al qaeda deeply enough to be able to get this video before release, it seems kinda stupid that they'd then do anything that would make al qaeda suspicious that they had been infiltrated or that someone was leaking information ... why would the americans risk their source to get the video out early?

al qaeda now know that somewhere theres a leak, from the filming of the video to its production etc - they know theres a leak somewhere along that line and they will try and plug it ... making it even harder for the americans to actually catch bin laden ...

i still haven't actually watched it yet, apparently he chats about chomsky!

http://3quarksdaily.blogs.com/3quarksdaily/2007/09/bin-laden-on-ch.html

you can get a transcript here ( saves reading the subtitles )

http://counterterrorismblog.org/site-resources/images/SITE-OBL-transcript.pdf

article about the sound/video "Latest Bin Laden Video Is a Forgery: All References to Current Events Are Made During Video Freeze"

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m36119&hd=&size=1&l=e

dodgy dates http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/OBLTranscriptdate

direct download http://ia341242.us.archive.org.nyud.net/3/items/aqAQq/s.MPG

[Mandy]

I wonder if we will be soon told that the contractors at the WTC have found under some old rubble Osama's Democratic Convention pass.

[Salim201]

woah woah woah woah!!! Waleed al Shehri is STILL ALIVE NOW?!?!?! can someone clear that up???

[Mandy]

[luke]

[Salim201]

so the fact that he was on the bin laden video proves that he was involved but perhaps only peripherally and didn't participate in the actual operation?

[luke]

interesting follow up here;