Flooding in England

[faceless]

Global warming isn't real - this is all just perfectly normal during the summer!

Up here we're having a really nice dry sunny day though.

[Mandy]

More like Global Flooding .. It didn't feel like a warm summer when the torrential rains were coming down.

Though reminds me of the tropical storms in the sub-continent when rain tends to occur in summer (whilst in UK the summers USED TO BE on the dry side).

No kidding : I bet we will get a hose-pipe ban soon .. after all, this is all the wrong type of rain.

[11antoniacourt]

We've been seeing the reports on our evening news. No deaths or life threatening injuries I hope. Face, can you tell us anything about the picture? Where is it? Do you know? I love the two old gentlemen just taking it in stride.

[faceless]

the big picture is from some place called Upton Severn or something like that - the old boys are a pic that was sent into the BBC by someone. I especially appreciated the fact one's smoking a pipe like he sits there every day... haha

It really does seem a big scale disaster though, there's a lot of people without fresh water or electricity or both, which is not usually a problem here at all.

[6ULDV8]

I saw a bit about this on BBC World News (BBC America) this morning.

By no means is it on the same level as Texas, but non the less it's not good to see.

Something was mentioned however that got me thinking...
Records show that this 'Freakish' weather & flooding happened back in the early-ish 1700's also.
(This was on church records in Tewkesbury (spelling))

I bring this up (the above records) as I am one of those who feel that all this "Global Warming" talk ignores weather patterns on record.
Our planet is not round, our trip around the sun is not round, the moon does not go around the earth on a perfect circular course etc etc etc...
This planet has a history of freezing, getting hot etc & all well before anybody could cry "Global warning".

I feel sorry for anybody subject to being flooded, but please (directed to the media) lay off of the "Global Warning" shite & recognize that this is a NATURAL course of events as seen in records & proven many times over.
(as per records & scientific proclamations over a great many years)

[faceless]

prove it's 'shite' then

[Mandy]

[SpursFan1902]

I think that the Global Warming people are ignoring the natural weather patterns in order to make the Global Warming issue more spectacular, to make it much more dramatic. They can point at natural swings, that would have happened anyway, such as the cyclical tendancies of hurricanes, and blame it all on Global Warming. I think that they use it as propaganda.

[faceless]

The problem is, of course, that man-made pollution (mainly through industry, combustion engines and cattle for the beef industry) is tipping that natural fluctuation into the danger areas.

That's not propaganda, that's simple science.

[6ULDV8]

[faceless]

There simply wouldn't be enough cows, sheep or whatever to cause such devastating damage if we didn't mass-produce them for meat.

[6ULDV8]

[faceless]

The bison situation was pretty much a one-off because of the massive landspace and climate. Such conditions don't exist in many places, which is why huge swathes of rainforest have been removed in order to make space for cattle-rearing in South America.

The majority of the world would see eating a cow as a complete waste of a resource - and I'd say that it's only the fact that they can be artificially inseminated and given all the health treatments (perhaps hormones) that there are so many of them now.

I like a steak as much as the next man, but I could quite easily do without, and have actually moved away from buying beef if possible. (good news for my body too - in more ways than one)

[6ULDV8]

I suppose my point above was to liken the buffalo to cattle / livestock all over the world had man not started to breed them & also if we had not populated the planet in such ways as we have...

Perhaps I was looking towards the "What if" sittuation where man wasn't poluting the planet & not so big in animal husbandry, a time & place where animals were naturaly abundant & giving off tons of methane, eating greenstuffs etc...
Perhaps then the way the planets weather has been would be seen as acts of the gods (insert fav' one here) as it was back when the supposed preveilaing floods caused a geezer to build a huge boat & piss of his family. ;)

I can't & won't say that man hasn't had a hand in fucking up 'mother earth' in ohhh so many ways over the years, all I am saying is that had it been left alone to it's own natural devices we'd still be seeing climate changes such as that which we see now...

[SpursFan1902]