YouTube "Not so cool facts about Israel"

[nekokate]

Just a small point of constructive criticism: sarcasm in a political video is all well and good, but it needs to be more obvious. When I first watched the video it came across as deadly serious, which is why my eyebrow kept raising when I read things like the Guinness Book of Records thing, and the "eye specific bullets" and "abortion specific gas" thing. It's not obvious at all that these are meant sarcastically, because the over-riding tone of the video is extremely, gravely serious, and because of that, the parts that are meant to be sarcastic just seem out of place and only serve to make the viewer go "hmmm, something's not right here". I'd imagine that's one of the main reasons some have been slinging the term "propaganda" and "agenda" around.

[faceless]

I should have said that when I said the video seemed exaggerated that was before I knew it was a parody of this other one. Knowing that changes my opinion entirely.

[nekokate]

[Mandy]

Can't wait for the next version of the video (though I do realise it is not quick or easy to do). You can use this forum to list against each slide any background material references you found interesting .. or indeed, a reference to the slide in the "cool video" you are parodying.

I hope I am wrong, but I doubt "maycm" will contribute any references on the matters you raised in the "Not Cool" video [i.e. what "facts" he would be happy with] .. though this won't stop him criticising the next video as biased, since I feel his over-riding concern isn't "facts" and "justice", but to propagate the pro-Israeli and pro-Zionist propaganda, and to stiffle (and scare off) examination of what the Israel Government is really doing.

[Benquasha]

Thanks Kate, valid points, will be taken into account in the next version. Do you work in media or some related thing? cuz ur analysis is kinda professional.

so what I have in my list:

1. Do the sarcastic items in a way that shows them as such, like adding a "trivia" section.

2. Explain at the begining that this video is parody of another one.

3. I think I should also explain that , though this presentation is focused on the ugly side of occupation, it comes in a wider context of a conflict.

4. to put a slide about the ugliness of settlements. (and yes Mandy, maycm is useful as he reminded me of this).

plz more feed back

Thabks

[Benquasha]

Yes Mandy, thanks for this valid point. may use this forum or other internet arena to publish a text of the facts and the references to it. Hopefully an arena that is dynamic and allowed constructive feed back.

[oddshoes]

Thought i might share these videos with you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96mhW6feiGQ

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96mhW6feiGQ

This is what is being done in our name

[Mandy]

Sorry oddshoes, both URLs are the same

[Mandy]

[luke]

nice one mandy, i've found uruknet.info to be a great source in the past

[luke]

some more on memri from http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/brian_whitaker/2007/05/arabic_under_fire.html