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til661



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not only disproportianate but incredibly hypocritical.

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First of all, let's just get this out of the way: The idea that anyone in the media world gives a shit about the dignity of women, black or white, is a ridiculous joke. America's TV networks have spent the last forty years falling over each other trying to find better and more efficient ways to sell tits to the 18-to-35 demographic. They make hour-long prime-time reality dramas these days about shopping-obsessed sluts hitting each other with pocketbooks, for Christ's sake. Paris Hilton -- dumb, rich -- gets her own prime-time show. MTV, the teenie mags, the pop music industry, they're basically all an endless parade of skinny, half-naked brainless women selling makeup and jeans to neurotic, self-hating, weight-obsessed little girls



I not only remember it i have both series on the computer Very Happy "You're a puritan Stew, Pur-It-An" heh
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nekokate



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I'm not a puritan, Rich, I just like the puritan look!"
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til661



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Do you not see? Ahhhhhh. No not Ahhhhh, jesus."

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Colston



Joined: 23 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nekokate wrote:
No. That's just wrong, because the consequences were massively disproportionate to the actions.

Just because we don't like what he said is no reason to turn a blind eye when he is sacked for saying it, because maybe tomorrow we'll say something that inadvertently offends someone else, and who'll be left to say "hang on a sec, this is bullshit"?


I don't know the guy or his show. However I get from what you have written that he didn't inadvertingly offend anyone. He went out of his way to do so and does that for a living. He chooses to live that way... and the consequences of living that way are never good in the long term.

You will always offend someone that ends up kicking your arse. C'est la vie.

There is a Buddhist concept of right livelihood...
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nekokate



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colston wrote:
I don't know the guy or his show.


Cha-ching.
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Colston



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nekokate wrote:
Colston wrote:
I don't know the guy or his show.


Cha-ching.


From the little I've read this isn't the first time though... isn't the shock jock concept offending people for a living? Maybe I am misinformed.
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til661



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colston wrote:
nekokate wrote:
Colston wrote:
I don't know the guy or his show.


Cha-ching.


From the little I've read this isn't the first time though... isn't the shock jock concept offending people for a living? Maybe I am misinformed.


He is being censured by the very people who pay him to say outrageous things and by people who have gone along with it the whole time, Al sharpton amongst others have appeared on his show. Somewhat hypocritical no?
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Colston



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

til661 wrote:
Colston wrote:
nekokate wrote:
Colston wrote:
I don't know the guy or his show.


Cha-ching.


From the little I've read this isn't the first time though... isn't the shock jock concept offending people for a living? Maybe I am misinformed.


He is being censured by the very people who pay him to say outrageous things and by people who have gone along with it the whole time, Al sharpton amongst others have appeared on his show. Somewhat hypocritical no?


Absolutely, but he chooses to play in that world... and when you do eventually you get hung out to dry. Surely it is not inconceivabale that he will misfire with a target and hit the one that causes his own downfall. Inevitable IMO.

I believe that we all make our own choices and we all then suffer the consequences of those choices. Good or bad. I didn't punch anyone out today... and surprisingly enough no one did the same to me. shhh
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nekokate



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you can count on me to stand up for you if being a pussy ever becomes illegal.
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Colston



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nekokate wrote:
Well you can count on me to stand up for you if being a pussy ever becomes illegal.


First they came for the rap stars
and I did not speak out
because I was not a rap star.
Then they came for the comedians
and I did not speak out
because I was not a comedian.
Then they came for the shock jocks
and I did not speak out
because I was not a shock jock.
Then they came for me
but it was okay...
because nekokate was there to stand up for the pussies... celebrate
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nekokate



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe Smile

Which side of the offensiveness line was I right then?
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Colston



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nekokate wrote:
Hehe Smile

Which side of the offensiveness line was I right then?


For me it was okay... for others... thinking

That old devil subjectivity again...
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pirtybirdy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a great topic you guys! This topic has had me on the fence a bit. There are so many points of view about this subject. I used to like Imus as a kid. He's gotten too political, and quite frankly, I've grown to dislike him over the years. Still, the question is, should he have gotten fired over it? Not so sure. I don't think it was nice what he said. I don't think it was meant to say the girls were "tough" as he says it was, but still, not sure if he should have been fired over it. He has always been controversial in what he has said over the years. He started out on the same radio station as Howard Stern with WNBC. He had that kind of show. Howard has said some really unbelievable things. I'm not so sure Imus should have been fired. The corporations crumbled under pressure from the likes of Jessie Jackson's Rainbow Coalition and Reverend Al Sharpton. It's the advertisers pulling out I think, which did Don Imus in. It's all a shame. One bad moment, and a career down the tubes.
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Colston



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and there is more...



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Colston



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty ignorant where this stuff is concerned.

I'm presuming it is nothing new - so who is hyping it up?

Christian right or liberal left? Or another group?
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