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til661
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly. |
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nekokate
Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: West Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Incidentally I have put that audio clip on YouTube, along with all my other Galloway highlights (user name "nekokate") and I've credited Faceless for the capture. I think it's important a lot of people hear it. |
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faceless admin
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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nekokate wrote: | Isn't this just degenerating into an argument over semantics? I think we all agree that the caller was a vicious piece of shit... why not leave it at that? |
I think it's an important point - why should those who are against nazis use the same tactics as they do? I prefer to point out the flaws in their argument than treat them as sub-human. |
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til661
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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That is really melodramatic.
The Neo-nazi's want people of various races, sexualities and cultures gassed to death in their millions.
George insulted someone because he was angry. There is no equivalence whatsoever.
I for one would have called him worse things than 'animal' |
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faceless admin
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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til661 wrote: | That is really melodramatic. |
go on then, suggest a better method that doesn't leave you looking like just as much of a foamer. |
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faceless admin
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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nekokate wrote: | Incidentally I have put that audio clip on YouTube, along with all my other Galloway highlights (user name "nekokate") and I've credited Faceless for the capture. I think it's important a lot of people hear it. |
nice one kate - I'm sure it will get a lot of hits over time |
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til661
Joined: 11 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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"George insulted someone because he was angry"
This is my main point. If he had written a speech or an article which used this language i would agree with your premise, but he didn't. He said it in the heat of the moment, quite clearly a different thing from the deliberate hatred put out by these people. When i said i would have called him worse, i again meant in the moment, if you'll notice i haven't actually used any obscenities in this thread because i have had time to think about it. there is is the difference.
And of course you are right about rebutting them point by point, absolutely. |
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luke
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Location: by the sea
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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GG_Fan wrote: | racist pigs .. though that's probably insulting the pigs .. Though that's another animal analogy. |
yeah, bang out of order, pigs are quite intelligent |
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nekokate
Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: West Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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faceless wrote: | why should those who are against nazis use the same tactics as they do? I prefer to point out the flaws in their argument than treat them as sub-human. |
But when I call a Nazi a despicable animal, I'm not using a "tactic", I'm speaking my mind. I don't care what propaganda value my words carry, I just say what I see. |
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faceless admin
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe I'm just getting old... |
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