Trident

[Lucky Lucan]

R.I.P









Not a Trident sub though.

[Karl]

[Lucky Lucan]

[Karl]

Tony Blair was at pains to say that firing Trident does not require the permission, the satellites or the codes of any other country
in the commons

Norman Baker -Liberal party said
essentially our Tridents are American missiles mounted on British submarines, which require American guidance satellites to work properly

Des Browne (Secretary of State, Ministry of Defence): Since May 1994, the UK’s nuclear missiles have not been targeted at any country

so target would be decided at the point of firing
if the satelites are knocked out
remember the 24 satelites making the grid are also EARLY WARNING
So if anyone like the chinese attacks them first we will be as blind as a bat up a rats ass

[Lucky Lucan]

Tony Blair is correct, Britain could at any time launch a nuclear strike against any country including the U.S.A.

Norman Baker is incorrect to say Trident needs any external help to find it's way to its target, the use of gps might make the missile slightly more accurate, but whats a few feet either way to a nuclear missile, Trident is a bludgeon not a rapier.

Des Brown is correct (for once) but Trident can be targeted and launched within 15 minutes.


I have heard of no reason to suspect that the Chinese would want to attack the west, but if they did launch a mass attack on western satellites it would be detected as soon as the missiles left China and would be regarded as an act of war which would result in immediate retaliatory attacks on China, resulting in nuclear Armageddon, the threat of which should be enough to stop any aggression, of course if we did not have a nuclear deterrent then the Chinese could attack the west with impunity, thanks Karl you have talked me round, we must have Trident to defend us from the Chinese.

[Mandy]

[faceless]

gg_fan - why do you keep writing "c.f." when giving examples? why not use e.g.?

[Mandy]

[faceless]

I've never seen anyone use c.f or cf ever and had never even heard of it before I saw you using it. It's nerdishly useful to know, but I'll probably not be using it myself as I don't think enough people will know what it means - meaning that it would be "bad" communication. The terms "eg", "re", or even "see" should do the trick.

[Mandy]

Thanks .. I hope this doesn't give away my contacts with lawyers or academics.

GG himself might even approve of using such an unusual expression.

[Lucky Lucan]

GG FAN

Karl started this topic by saying Trident would not work, my argument is that it will, or would, hopefully we will never see it in action, whether Britain should or should not have a nuclear deterrent is another argument altogether.

[Skylace]

[nekokate]

[Karl]

Lets go back to the TRIDENT issue.
Who thinks it is a good deal?
Who thinks we need it?
who thinks it will even work?
i certainly dont. All that money going to feed some fat american defense contractors and their swiss bank accounts it should be spent on better equipment for our conventional forces and building infrastructure projects here in the UK

[Lucky Lucan]

Who thinks it is a good deal?
Hard to say, whats a good nuclear deterrent worth these days, I think a system similar to the French would be better, but would cost far more.

Who thinks we need it?
Who can tell, can you tell me what threat's may exist in 10,20 or 30 years, I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

who thinks it will even work?
Why not, I've yet to hear of an informed reason why it would not work.