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| Two wrongs don't make a right no, but there's no comparison as far as I can see - Chavez is simply name-calling and "America" is attempting to destabilise his country through economic pressure. It's like a kid flinging a rock at a tank. |
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Skylace
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| faceless wrote: | | Two wrongs don't make a right no, but there's no comparison as far as I can see - Chavez is simply name-calling and "America" is attempting to destabilise his country through economic pressure. It's like a kid flinging a rock at a tank. |
And you seem to miss the point that I have said all the other stuff he said was fine. Makes sense. He has every right to speak out against the American Government for what is going on. But if I have a black person who breaks into my house and I start yelling and screaming and call him a nigger, that is okay then?
I don't think we're going to see eye to eye on this because I know you have very strong feelings towards the American Government and I have very strong feeling when it comes to racist slurs being used. |
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Bat
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| The whole point is, Skylace is that you see it as racist and some other people don't. I don't mind if someone calls me Jock, Sweaty (sock-jock), or in some cases Limey. In the UK every person from the US is a Yank, some people don't like that either but is it racist? |
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Skylace
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Bat wrote: | | The whole point is, Skylace is that you see it as racist and some other people don't. I don't mind if someone calls me Jock, Sweaty (sock-jock), or in some cases Limey. In the UK every person from the US is a Yank, some people don't like that either but is it racist? |
The only way I can argue is from my perception. I don't like terms like Yank, Limey, or anything like that. I'm with Maya Angelou on this. Any type of term that is used to put people into a group like that and can be used in a negative manner only breeds hate a prejudice. I don't call French people "frogs" or German people "Krauts" or people from the south "crackers" It's negative and it's one of the things that I see as pulling us a part as a human race and belittling to others. |
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Bat
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Calling a German a Kraut is offensive(I think), calling a Pakistani a Paki is definetly offensive, calling an Irish person a Mick is offensive too. But, in my mind a Venezuelan calling an American gringo........ok I see where this is going.........can he say "Bush, fuck off and mind your own business"?  |
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Skylace
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Bat wrote: | | Calling a German a Kraut is offensive(I think), calling a Pakistani a Paki is definetly offensive, calling an Irish person a Mick is offensive too. But, in my mind a Venezuelan calling an American gringo........ok I see where this is going.........can he say "Bush, fuck off and mind your own business"? |
YES! That's just fine!  I'd say it for him even. |
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Bat
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Cool, that's that sorted. Next debate!!!! |
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