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faceless admin
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:47 pm Post subject: Idiots are finally given the vote! |
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State may ditch anti-idiot clause
Tuesday, January 9, 2007
In a bold move forward, the state of New Jersey is considering amending a clause in its constitution which prevents idiots from voting. State Senate President Richard Codey has introduced a bill to remove the words 'no idiot or insane person should enjoy the right of suffrage' from the state constitution. Codey, the Democrat former acting governor of New Jersey, said that the clause is 'outdated, vague, offensive to many and may be subject to misinterpretation.'
The word 'idiot,' of course, is an archaic way of referring to a specific degree of mental disability – coming just below 'imbecile' on the scale, with 'moron' slightly above that. However, it now has a much more general usage (as can be seen by quickly Googling the word 'idiot' and the name of the current American president). Codey wants to replace the reference to idiots, which dates back to 1844, with a clause about 'a person who has been adjudicated by a court of competent jurisdiction to lack the capacity to understand the act of voting.' He hopes that this will allow previously disenfranchised people with cognitive or emotional disabilities a chance to vote.
It is not known if the law has ever been used to prevent idiots in the general, non-medical sense from voting in New Jersey elections. Although it might be worth noting that NJ has consistently favoured Democrat candidates in recent years.
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This is a good step forward for sure, but that last line in the article gave me a good chuckle - haha |
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pirtybirdy 'Native New Yorker'
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: FL USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Nice one. There are a lot of states that have various old laws still on the books from like the 1800's that are really ridiculous or laughable. That was a good one Face! LOL!! |
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Bob
Joined: 01 May 2006 Location: US
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:38 am Post subject: |
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aye, pretty amusing stuff...and half the country should be classed as idiots, them there half that voted bush... |
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pirtybirdy 'Native New Yorker'
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: FL USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Bob wrote: | aye, pretty amusing stuff...and half the country should be classed as idiots, them there half that voted bush... |
Well Bob, I voted for Bush and I don't consider myself an idiot. I don't appreciate being insulted on a website that is meant to be fun. |
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faceless admin
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: |
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pirtybirdy wrote: | Bob wrote: | aye, pretty amusing stuff...and half the country should be classed as idiots, them there half that voted bush... |
Well Bob, I voted for Bush and I don't consider myself an idiot. I don't appreciate being insulted on a website that is meant to be fun. |
ah come on Pirty, all the democrats in New Jersey were called idiots in the first post. Still, anyone who actually believes in the american (or British for that matter) electoral system has to be at least a bit daft. The two systems are the most archaic and unfair forms of "democracy" imaginable - but then, how would the scum at the top keep hold of power if they allowed truely fair representation? |
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fritz
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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For Christ sake please don't turn this site into a political blog.
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faceless admin
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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fritz wrote: | For Christ sake please don't turn this site into a political blog.
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I've always expressed my political opinions and will continue to do so. Especially in a thread that's about voting. |
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Skylace Admin
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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pirtybirdy wrote: | Bob wrote: | aye, pretty amusing stuff...and half the country should be classed as idiots, them there half that voted bush... |
Well Bob, I voted for Bush and I don't consider myself an idiot. I don't appreciate being insulted on a website that is meant to be fun. |
You're not an idiot. At least you went out an voted. I may not have voted the same way you did but it's good you actually went out there and let your thoughts be heard. |
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eefanincan Admin
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Skylace wrote: |
You're not an idiot. At least you went out an voted. I may not have voted the same way you did but it's good you actually went out there and let your thoughts be heard. |
You're right Sky. Just getting out and voting, is the most important thing. Our system is so screwed up here...our government (federal and provincal) seems to have the ability to call an election whenever the hell they want. It's gotten so bad over the last few years that I never know how to vote. I really wish that they'd finalize the bill that's calling for one election every four years. I think they'd find that more people would actually come out and vote. And it would give people time to seriously study the issues and where they stand. |
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IRiSHMaFIA Admin
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:49 am Post subject: |
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pirtybirdy wrote: | Bob wrote: | aye, pretty amusing stuff...and half the country should be classed as idiots, them there half that voted bush... |
Well Bob, I voted for Bush and I don't consider myself an idiot. I don't appreciate being insulted on a website that is meant to be fun. |
Pirty you are anything but an idiot, and your opinion is as important as anyone elses here and appreciated. Don't take it to heart, although I know it's not easy when reading things like that. |
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IRiSHMaFIA Admin
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:50 am Post subject: |
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fritz wrote: | For Christ sake please don't turn this site into a political blog.
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Who is that a picture of fritz? |
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faceless admin
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:59 am Post subject: |
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IRiSHMaFIA wrote: | fritz wrote: | For Christ sake please don't turn this site into a political blog.
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Who is that a picture of fritz? |
When I read that first I thought you were talking about the argue smilie! Luckily sense came back and I realised you meant Fritz's avatar...
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6ULDV8
Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:41 am Post subject: |
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Sorry but I had to stick my 2 cents in...
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Skylace Admin
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:43 am Post subject: |
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IRiSHMaFIA wrote: | fritz wrote: | For Christ sake please don't turn this site into a political blog.
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Who is that a picture of fritz? |
Is that our Fritz? |
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eefanincan Admin
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:20 am Post subject: |
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6ULDV8 wrote: | Sorry but I had to stick my 2 cents in...
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You know, here in Canada, that's worth, like, 2.5 cents! LOL! |
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