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IRiSHMaFIA Admin
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject: Dragged woman left mile-long blood trail, police say |
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fritz
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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I undedstand they are looking for her boyfriend.If it was him he should get the same as those red necks who draged that Man behind there pick-up down in Taxes.I think his name was James Byrd.I know some of you hate the death penalty but sometimes its called for. :grr: |
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eefanincan Admin
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: |
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fritz wrote: | I know some of you hate the death penalty but sometimes its called for. :grr: |
Have to agree with you and Irish on this one. This was such a brutal crime...... I almost think that lethal injection is too kind. |
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faceless admin
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'd never agree with the death penalty - not even in a case like this. Killing someone because they killed someone has no morality about it at all, and morality is (apparently) the whole point of having a legal system in the first place.
The person who did this is utter scum, there's no doubt of that, but if there was ever a reason to have prisons (or mental institutions) then here it is. People like this guy need to be punished and 10 years in jail followed by death just doesn't work out as good punishment for me.
There's a lot of opposition to not killing people like this because of the amount it costs to keep people in prison that long, but if they (the judiciary) stopped jailing so many thousands of people for small time drug offences then there wouldn't be such massive costs involved in the whole system. |
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eefanincan Admin
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:26 am Post subject: |
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faceless wrote: | I'd never agree with the death penalty - not even in a case like this. Killing someone because they killed someone has no morality about it at all, and morality is (apparently) the whole point of having a legal system in the first place.
The person who did this is utter scum, there's no doubt of that, but if there was ever a reason to have prisons (or mental institutions) then here it is. People like this guy need to be punished and 10 years in jail followed by death just doesn't work out as good punishment for me. |
You have a point, Face. I can't say that I honestly agree with it 100% but I see where you're coming from. This is an age old debate that I think will never go away. |
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Gasman59 Resident Ghost Hunter
Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: Pennsylvania USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:38 am Post subject: |
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fritz wrote: | I undedstand they are looking for her boyfriend.If it was him he should get the same as those red necks who draged that Man behind there pick-up down in Taxes.I think his name was James Byrd.I know some of you hate the death penalty but sometimes its called for. :grr: |
That Texas incident is the first thing that popped into mind when I read this story. Twisted people out there. That has to be one of the most horrible ways to die. |
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faceless admin
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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eefanincan wrote: | faceless wrote: | I'd never agree with the death penalty - not even in a case like this. Killing someone because they killed someone has no morality about it at all, and morality is (apparently) the whole point of having a legal system in the first place.
The person who did this is utter scum, there's no doubt of that, but if there was ever a reason to have prisons (or mental institutions) then here it is. People like this guy need to be punished and 10 years in jail followed by death just doesn't work out as good punishment for me. |
You have a point, Face. I can't say that I honestly agree with it 100% but I see where you're coming from. This is an age old debate that I think will never go away. |
America is the only "western" democracy to still use it. It seems the debate has been resolved by most civilised countries already...
There's some interesting stats on this page about it globally. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777460.html |
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IRiSHMaFIA Admin
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Dragged woman identified, was mother of 3
A neighbor says the woman shown in the photo with the suspect is not the victim, but is his Mexican wife.
CASTLE ROCK, Colorado (AP) -- A woman dragged to her death behind a vehicle was identified as a mother of three from the Mexican state of Guerrero, the Mexican consul general said.
Luz Maria Franco-Fierros, 49, was identified through fingerprints, Consul General Juan Marcos Gutierrez Gonzalez said. Franco-Fierros was from the city of Chilpancingo, the capital of Guerrero.
Her battered, disfigured body was discovered early Monday along a subdivision road north of Castle Rock, about 20 miles south of Denver.
Investigators say Franco-Fierros had been dragged behind a vehicle for more than a mile, leaving a bloody trail. Preliminary autopsy results said she suffered fatal head injuries and strangled as she was dragged.
Jose Luis Rubi-Nava, 36, was being held without bail on a charge of first-degree murder.
Friends told the Rocky Mountain News that the woman lived with Rubi-Nava, even though he had a wife and children in Mexico. Cesar Gustavo Flores, 20, a roommate, said the couple sometimes argued violently.
Spokeswomen for the district attorney, the Douglas County sheriff and the coroner declined to comment Thursday. Rubi-Nava's public defender, Kathleen McGuire, did not immediately return a call.
A judge sealed court documents and said he would consider McGuire's request for a gag order.
In his only public statement since the arrest, Sheriff Dave Weaver did not say how the arrest was made or how the few known clues fit into the case.
Among those clues is a widely circulated photograph found somewhere near the crime scene showing Rubi-Nava standing beside an unidentified woman, his right arm resting on her shoulder. Weaver said Wednesday he did not know whether the woman in the photo is the victim. Flores told the Rocky Mountain News that the woman in the photograph was Rubi-Nava's wife in Mexico.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials said they believe Rubi-Nava is an illegal immigrant from Mexico.
Denver police confirmed Thursday they arrested Rubi-Nava on a traffic charge in April but released him.
Police spokeswoman Virginia Quinones said the arresting officer suspected Rubi-Nava's identification may have been forged, but she said the department was not responsible for verifying a suspect's immigration status, and a new Colorado law directing police to cooperate with federal immigration officers was not yet in force. |
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