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faceless admin
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: If I catch you shagging me again! |
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I'm watching some old B+W movie on film4 just now and there's a private eye telling another P.I that 'If I ever catch you shagging me again I'll ram these down your throat!' - it seems that he means following, but it's quite a surprise to hear as I thought the word shagging had only got to america a few years back... |
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nekokate
Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: West Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Haha! I think Rangers fans should adopt that and start shouting "Shag, shag!" |
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faceless admin
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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here's the clip - it gives me a puerile chuckle each time... haha
the film's called 'The Dark Corner' |
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Bat
Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Top of the Northern line.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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So do you reckon it means the same as shafting? |
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faceless admin
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure it means 'following', maybe from 'shaggy dog' or something.
There was loads of strange phrases in the movie, but that was the funniest for sure... |
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nekokate
Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: West Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty insterested in the origins of words, so I looked into it.
From an online etymology website:
Quote: | shag (v.)
"copulate with," 1788, probably from obs. verb shag (c.1380) "to shake, waggle," which probably is connected to shake (cf. shake, shake it in U.S. blues slang from 1920s, ostensibly with ref. to dancing).
Also the name of a dance popular in U.S. 1930s and '40s. The baseball verb meaning "to catch" (fly balls) is attested from 1913, of uncertain origin or connection to other senses of the word. |
So I looked up the dance, which turns out to be the "Carolina Shag" and, according to Wikipedia, is a dance where "[t]he man is the center of attention and the woman's steps are either mirror steps of the man's or a sort of marking time while he does spins and other gyrations." So I reckon the slang "shag" meaning to "follow" comes from the following or mirroring required in that 30s and 40s dance.
I have too much spare time. |
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nekokate
Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Location: West Yorkshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for the double post, but I've just found a website dedicated to people who still do this dance - and compete against each other.
The Competitive Shaggers Association
Apparently, if you want to learn the dance, one of their Shag instructors is called Susie Beaver... |
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faceless admin
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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nekokate wrote: | Sorry for the double post, but I've just found a website dedicated to people who still do this dance - and compete against each other.
The Competitive Shaggers Association
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oh man, what a name for a site!
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Twirley
Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, there are loads of clubs for shag round here. Even met an old couple last week who still do it. I laugh every time I hear it mentioned. |
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faceless admin
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:01 am Post subject: |
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I was looking up the definition of 'sincere' today and was surprised to read the original meaning.
It comes from the Latin words sin and cera - meaning literally, without (sin) wax (cera). The description comes from statues and sculptures which were perfect in their construction, without having cracks and blemishes filled in with wax.
I find that strangely cool. |
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faceless admin
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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cool |
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