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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Later, a man died after collapsing, police said.

He was found unconscious near the Bank of England and two police medics were unable to resuscitate him.

At 1930 BST, the London Ambulance Service took him to a hospital where he was pronounced dead.


from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7977489.stm

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's sad to hear - it will be interesting to hear how he died. Head injuries can take a while to take real effect.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I'm all for some of the things in the protests the twats breaking the windows were idiots. If this had been a bunch of chavs on some council estate on a wrecking spree then I'm sure you would have a right old pop at them. No doubt a lot of the idiots at the front egging on plod are from nice middle-class or even upper-class families. As for the geezer who died....bad news that, and the idiots who were throwing bottles at plod when they were trying to get him out. Then again I wouldn't expect anyone on here to mention that.

So these bunch of CUNTS have taken all the news headlines whilst the legitamate protests were hardly mentioned. Fucking anarchist cunts.

Just to add will you find it sad to hear if that copper who was shown to be hit over the head with the wooden pole drops dead after his head injuries later take effect.

As for this G20..........what a waste of time and money. Why couldn't they web-conference so as to leave no carbon footprint. They are a bunch of cunts as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why are you making presumptions about how we would react? I don't really call people chavs for a start (certainly not with the kind of venom you're talking about). I live in a pretty deprived area myself and your attitude stinks. You've clearly not been to many marches if you think they're populated by middle and upper-class people. Most marches I've been on have been organised by Trades Unions and Churches etc. Though when I took part in the Glasgow May Day festivals in the early 00's they were mainly organised by, believe it or not, people who sounded exactly like you in attitude with the difference being they got off their arse to do something instead of just whinging impotently.

As for anarchists stealing the headlines. Are you really so blind that you think the media would have published any amount of detail if there wasn't some violence? When that guy was breaking the window, there was approximately 50 press photographers in a group around the window. They probably paid that guy to do that, just as they used to pay kids in NI to throw petrol bombs at police (and likely still do).

Why should I care if a copper dies? I've seen cops battering people unconscious before and I've been arrested and held for nothing more than waiting for a bus. So why should I care what happens to them in the job they chose to do and which they could walk away from at any moment? The fact is - a protestor died and no cops were reported badly injured, so please keep your hyperbole to yourself.

The only logical thought in your rant was the final sentence.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Violence Breaks Out At G20 Death Protest
3:33pm UK, April 02, 2009

Violence has broken out at a vigil being held by G20 protesters outside the Bank of England to mark the death of a man during violent demonstrations there yesterday.

Sky News Online's Alex Watts said police circled around 500 people taking part in the vigil, which started this lunchtime following a slow march through central London. He said a group of protesters broke through the cordon, sparking a melee during which batons were used and several people were arrested.

The protesters are demanding a public inquiry after a man was found unconscious in a street near the bank amid ugly confrontations between police and protesters just before 7.30pm yesterday evening. He was taken to hospital but later died - and protest organisers G20Meltdown say they want to find out exactly what happened.

"We are appealing for anyone who knows the circumstances of his death to provide us with information," the masked protester told Watts at the vigil. "We're putting flowers here as a mark of respect for someone who I believe to be a fellow protester. This is not a publicity stunt. We just want to know the truth."

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man who died during G20 protest was walking home from work
Adam Fresco,
Crime Correspondent

A man who died during the protests in the City of London yesterday was on his way home from work when he collapsed and is not thought to have been part of the marches. Ian Tomlinson, 47, was found unconscious near to St Michael’s Alley off of Cornhill near the Bank of England just before 7.30pm yesterday. He had been returning to his home near by from working at a newsagents.

His family said that he came from a “large, loving family and he will sadly missed by us all. The police are keeping us informed of any developments". His death is being assessed by the Independent Police Complaints Commission. The matter was referred to them by both the City of London police and the Metropolitan Police service.

A member of the public called police to see to Mr Tomlinson and officers, wearing helmets and protective clothing, formed a barrier around him as police medics tried to resuscitate him. The Met said that as the officers tried to revive Mr Tomlinson they came under attack from protesters who threw bottles at them. A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said that officers arrived on the scene to help and had to move the casualty away for urgent treatment. Mr Tomlinson was eventually pronounced dead at hospital and a post-mortem examination will be carried out this afternoon.

Witnesses said that the incident happened on the outside of the police cordon, in which officers were holding the main body of demonstrators. A spokeswoman for the IPCC said: “IPCC investigators will be assessing the circumstances throughout the day. They will be examining CCTV and attending the post-mortem this afternoon, as is usual in cases of this nature."

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So, it seems I jumped the gun in saying it was a protester - I should have known better... Maybe it was just an unfortunate coincidence that he collapsed there, or maybe he was attacked by the cops as they have attacked so many others. The riot squad are trained in these situations to treat every person as a threat and will attack on that basis, no matter the age, size, sex or anything else (like a perceived threat for example). Of course, there is also the possibility that he was hit by a bottle or something. We'll just have to trust the police to investigate it...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you read craig murray's blog on this http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/04/death_of_a_demo.html there are links to eyewitnesses saying nothing was thrown at the police as they tried to help this poor guy ...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tony benn on democracy now

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Baton charges and kettling: police's G20 crowd control tactics under fire
• Methods infringed civil liberties, say critics
• Only hardcore agitators were targeted, Met insists

Sandra Laville and Duncan Campbell
The Guardian,
Friday 3 April 2009

Police tactics of containing thousands of people for several hours at the Bank of England protests and using batons against climate camp protesters were condemned yesterday as an infringement of the right to demonstrate. In the aftermath of the G20 protests in the City of London, politicians, demonstrators and a former police officer raised concerns about the methods used by the Metropolitan police to control crowds of more than 5,000.

Eyewitnesses said hundreds of environmental demonstrators camping out along Bishopsgate in a peaceful protest during the day were cleared from the area aggressively by riot police with batons and dogs after nightfall on Wednesday. The police had earlier said they would ask the protesters, whom they acknowledged were peaceful, to move as night fell. Commander Simon O'Brien, said his officers would be "politely and proportionately" asking campers to move on.

But one eyewitness, Martin Horwood, the Liberal Democrat MP for Cheltenham, said dogs were used on protesters near the camp. James Lloyd, a legal adviser in the camp, said riot police forcefully cleared the area using batons around midnight. "There was no announcement, the riot police just started moving forward very quickly from the south," he said. "They were pushing everyone back, pushing forward quickly. They caused panic, people were screaming and shouting ... There was a person in a wheelchair struggling to move, being pushed forcibly by them. It was totally disproportionate."

Another eyewitness, Ashley Parsons, said: "The violence perpetrated against so many around me over that hour was sickening and terrifying. Without warning, from around midnight, the police repeatedly and violently surged forwards in full riot gear, occasionally rampaging through the protest line and deliberately destroying protesters' property, some officers openly screaming in pumped-up rage."

Outside the Bank of England, thousands were held for up to eight hours behind a police cordon, in a practice known as "kettling". Parents with children and passers-by were told by officers on the cordon that "no one could leave". According to witnesses, when they were finally allowed to go on Wednesday night, they were ordered to provide names and addresses and have their pictures taken. If they refused, they were sent back behind the cordon.

John O'Connor, a former Met officer, criticised the tactic. "They are using this more and more," he said. "Instead of sending snatch squads in to remove those in the crowd who are committing criminal offences, they contain everyone for hours. It is a retrograde step ... it is an infringement of civil liberties."

The tactic was challenged in the courts by two demonstrators who were held for seven hours at Oxford Circus, central London, during the May Day protests in 2001. They claimed their imprisonment breached their rights to liberty but a House of Lords judgment ruled the tactics legal.

Senior police defended their actions, saying they were dealing with a small minority bent on violence, while allowing the demonstrations to go ahead. They said the investigations were continuing. Two squats in east London were raided yesterday after officers viewed video footage taken by special teams. By last night the number arrested rose to 122 over three days. Four people were charged with damage to a branch of the Royal Bank of Scotland on Wednesday. Mindaugas Lenartavicius, 21, was charged with arson recklessly endangering life, Daniel Champion and Ben Shiells, both 18, with burglary, criminal damage and theft of a computer, and a 17-year-old girl with burglary with intent to cause damage.

O'Brien said the cordons were put in place because a group of about 200 people were violent. "There was no real deliberate attempt to say you are all going to stay here for hours," he said. He said people had been allowed to leave throughout the day, and that by about 7.30pm those left were people who wanted to be there, and they were asked for their names as they left as part of the inquiry. "What I saw there at that time was a couple of hundred people who did not want to go. They had ... been the agitators throughout the day," he said.

The Guardian saw and spoke to many people who were clearly not agitators, but who were refused permission to leave. David Howarth, the Liberal Democrat justice spokesman, said: "How did the police end up in a situation where they used the same degree of force on the most peaceful demonstration as they did for a violent protest at the Bank of England? They seem to only have one trick."

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If you watch the video you can clearly see one cop in particular (with a coloured flash on the back of his helmet) being particularly aggressive. At one point he uses the edge of his shield to hit someone in the face. Of course, he's 'just the bad apple which spoils the barrel' and all that crap...

*note - the protesters in this video were not the same ones who might have been involved in violence. None of these people are threatening anyone.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reporter assaulted him first, because MORE4 news is important, damn it!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some good pictures on the following threads including this gem



http://members.boardhost.com/DT3rd/thread/1238669729.html
http://members.boardhost.com/DT3rd/thread/1238576310.html

and this ... they've taped off the bike rack, with bikes still in it?! Confused Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those cops look like they're either on crack or in desperate need of a prozzie. I'm sure they went on to do both later in the day though. Cunts.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



I'm sure the policeman responsible will come forward and admit his guilt. I mean, it's not as if they would try to pervert the course of justice is it?
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These pics show the guy on his way home from work, when he is confronted by the cops and then battered to the ground.
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