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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: High School Valedictorain Speech Cut Off Reply with quote

She knew her speech as valedictorian of Foothill High School would be cut short, but Brittany McComb was determined to tell her fellow graduates what was on her mind and in her heart.

But before she could get to the word in her speech that meant the most to her -- Christ -- her microphone went dead.
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The decision to cut short McComb's commencement speech Thursday at The Orleans drew jeers from the nearly 400 graduates and their families that went on for several minutes.

However, Clark County School District officials and an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union said Friday that cutting McComb's mic was the right call. Graduation ceremonies are school-sponsored events, a stance supported by federal court rulings, and as such may include religious references but not proselytizing, they said.

They said McComb's speech amounted to proselytizing and that her commentary could have been perceived as school-sponsored.

Before she delivered her commencement speech, McComb met with Foothill administrators, who edited her remarks. It's standard district practice to have graduation speeches vetted before they are read publicly.

School officials removed from McComb's speech some biblical references and the only reference to Christ.

But even though administrators warned McComb that her speech would get cut short if she deviated from the language approved by the school, she said it all boiled down to her fundamental right to free speech.

That's why, for what she said was the first time in her life, the valedictorian who graduated with a 4.7 GPA rebelled against authority.

"I went through four years of school at Foothill and they taught me logic and they taught me freedom of speech," McComb said. "God's the biggest part of my life. Just like other valedictorians thank their parents, I wanted to thank my lord and savior."

In the 750-word unedited version of McComb's speech, she made two references to the lord, nine mentions of God and one mention of Christ.

In the version approved by school officials, six of those words were omitted along with two biblical references. Also deleted from her speech was a reference to God's love being so great that he gave his only son to suffer an excruciated death in order to cover everyone's shortcomings and forge a path to heaven.

Allen Lichtenstein, general counsel for the ACLU of Nevada, had read the unedited version of McComb's speech and said district officials did the right thing by cutting McComb's speech short because her commentary promoted religion.

"There should be no controversy here," Lichtenstein said. "It's important for people to understand that a student was given a school-sponsored forum by a school and therefore, in essence, it was a school-sponsored speech."

Lichtenstein said that position was supported by two decisions by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in 2000 and 2003.

Both cases involved graduation ceremonies and religious speeches given by commencement speakers. In the 2003 case, Lichtenstein said, the plaintiff even petitioned the Supreme Court to have the decision reversed, but the request was denied.

In 2003, the Clark County School Board amended district regulations on religious free speech, prohibiting district officials from organizing a prayer at graduation or selecting speakers for such events in a manner that favors religious speech or a prayer.

The remainder of the amendment allows for religious expression during school ceremonies.

Where students or other private graduation speakers are selected on the basis of genuinely neutral, evenhanded criteria and retain primary control over the content of their expression, however, that expression is not attributable to the school and, therefore, may not be restricted because of its religious (or anti-religious) content," it states.

"To avoid any mistaken perception that a school endorses student or other private speech that is not in fact attributable to the school, school officials may make appropriate neutral disclaimers to clarify that such speech is not school sponsored."

District legal counsel Bill Hoffman said the regulation allows students to talk about religion, but speeches can't cross into the realm of preaching.

"We review the speeches and tell them they may not proselytize," Hoffman said. "We encourage people to talk about religion and the impact on their lives. But when that discussion crosses over to become proselytizing, then we to tell students they can't do that."

McComb, who will study journalism at Biola University, a private Christian school in La Mirada, Calif., doesn't believe she was preaching. She said although some people might not like the message of her speech, it was just that, her speech.

"People aren't stupid and they know we have freedom of speech and the district wasn't advocating my ideas," McComb said. "Those are my opinions.

"It's what I believe."
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why invite her to speak and then censor what she says? I think if they knew what she was going to say, why let her speak at all if they didn't like it? To cut her off is so rude.

If I were in the audience I would of hated the sound being cut the same as that group did.

I've been to a few high school graduations and I've never seen anyone cut off for what they've said. I've heard political as well as religious comments from grads. Didn't think anything of it other than it was interesting to hear what young people think and how much diversity there is. No one was censored. I like that, although some speeches were a tad boring. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon they stopped her because letting it happen leaves the door open for anyone to talk about any religion. Would those same people be upset that it was cut if she'd been talking about Satanism? I don't think so, yet that is a perfectly acceptable and recognised religion.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

faceless wrote:
I reckon they stopped her because letting it happen leaves the door open for anyone to talk about any religion. Would those same people be upset that it was cut if she'd been talking about Satanism? I don't think so, yet that is a perfectly acceptable and recognised religion.


People might be made to feel uncomfortable but so what. Don't ask someone to speak and then tell them what they can or can't say. I hate that. At that age they are probably all 18 and should be allowed to have their say. If not, then don't allow students to talk at all.

Although on second thought I can see if from the school's point of view. They don't want that platform being used to shove personal views down people's throats.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I saw on the news this morning she submitted her speech to the school before she spoke. They went through it editted it and told she could not have the sections in the speech where she was talking about religion. They were clear with her from the start that it couldnt' be said and she agreed with them and said she wouldn't. Then at the commencement she decided she was going to use the original speech that wasn't approved.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skylace wrote:
From what I saw on the news this morning she submitted her speech to the school before she spoke. They went through it editted it and told she could not have the sections in the speech where she was talking about religion. They were clear with her from the start that it couldnt' be said and she agreed with them and said she wouldn't. Then at the commencement she decided she was going to use the original speech that wasn't approved.


Well then she was in the wrong. I take it this was a public school and not a religious one and that being said, they are in their right to not want religion being preached.

The curious part of me wants to know what she said though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ally wrote:
Skylace wrote:
From what I saw on the news this morning she submitted her speech to the school before she spoke. They went through it editted it and told she could not have the sections in the speech where she was talking about religion. They were clear with her from the start that it couldnt' be said and she agreed with them and said she wouldn't. Then at the commencement she decided she was going to use the original speech that wasn't approved.


Well then she was in the wrong. I take it this was a public school and not a religious one and that being said, they are in their right to not want religion being preached.

The curious part of me wants to know what she said though.


I saw a bit of the speech this morning on the Today Show. What I heard basically was her saying how God helped her and then how important God was to have in your life and how his love was for everyone.

I didn't get to hear or see it all.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are your views on it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ally wrote:
What are your views on it?


I personally am a strong believer in the seperation of church and state. I don't mind when kids get together and pray at lunch or do the whole prayer around the pole. I can walk away from it as can others.
However, at a commencement you are a bit more of a captivated audience. Not to mention some of the things she was saying were profligating the religion. If she was just saying how she felt that's fine.
The biggest problem I have is the fact that she was told not to do it, she agreed not to do it, and then she did it. For her and her family to be reacting this way is quite silly. She was forwarned.
I also don't care what religion she was. If it had been any other I am sure it would have been cut off.
At our commencement address in high school our val was Hindu. She left religion out of it completely. I am also sure if she had started talking about Shiva and Pavarti that she would have been asked to stop.
High school graduation is not a place where you should be standing at the pulpit (or kneeling at temple).
But once again, the biggest problem to me is that she knew and was told. If she did have a problem she should have been open with it before the ceremony.
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