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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: If I catch you shagging me again! Reply with quote

I'm watching some old B+W movie on film4 just now and there's a private eye telling another P.I that 'If I ever catch you shagging me again I'll ram these down your throat!' - it seems that he means following, but it's quite a surprise to hear as I thought the word shagging had only got to america a few years back...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha! I think Rangers fans should adopt that and start shouting "Shag, shag!"
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



here's the clip - it gives me a puerile chuckle each time... haha

the film's called 'The Dark Corner'
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So do you reckon it means the same as shafting?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure it means 'following', maybe from 'shaggy dog' or something.

There was loads of strange phrases in the movie, but that was the funniest for sure...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty insterested in the origins of words, so I looked into it.

From an online etymology website:

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shag (v.)

"copulate with," 1788, probably from obs. verb shag (c.1380) "to shake, waggle," which probably is connected to shake (cf. shake, shake it in U.S. blues slang from 1920s, ostensibly with ref. to dancing).

Also the name of a dance popular in U.S. 1930s and '40s. The baseball verb meaning "to catch" (fly balls) is attested from 1913, of uncertain origin or connection to other senses of the word.


So I looked up the dance, which turns out to be the "Carolina Shag" and, according to Wikipedia, is a dance where "[t]he man is the center of attention and the woman's steps are either mirror steps of the man's or a sort of marking time while he does spins and other gyrations." So I reckon the slang "shag" meaning to "follow" comes from the following or mirroring required in that 30s and 40s dance.

I have too much spare time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the double post, but I've just found a website dedicated to people who still do this dance - and compete against each other.

The Competitive Shaggers Association
Laughing

Apparently, if you want to learn the dance, one of their Shag instructors is called Susie Beaver...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nekokate wrote:
Sorry for the double post, but I've just found a website dedicated to people who still do this dance - and compete against each other.

The Competitive Shaggers Association
Laughing



oh man, what a name for a site!

Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, there are loads of clubs for shag round here. Even met an old couple last week who still do it. I laugh every time I hear it mentioned.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking up the definition of 'sincere' today and was surprised to read the original meaning.

It comes from the Latin words sin and cera - meaning literally, without (sin) wax (cera). The description comes from statues and sculptures which were perfect in their construction, without having cracks and blemishes filled in with wax.

I find that strangely cool.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



cool
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