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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:23 am    Post subject: Intriguing parallels of Scots poll Reply with quote

Voters in Scotland go to the polls on Thursday to choose a new devolved government.



Most of the opinion polls put the Scottish National party in the lead.

Labour, led by its First Minister Jack McConnell and backed by celebrities like Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson, is trying to claw its way back.

The general consensus is that the SNP is benefiting from an anti-Labour protest vote.

The polls suggest only around 25% of the Scottish people favour independence.

But if it gains power, the SNP has promised a referendum near the end of its four-year term in office.

The SNP has taken inspiration from the Irish Republic's Celtic Tiger economy, and cites the Irish experience as proof that a small country can be successful in 21st century Europe.

But if Scotland was to break from Britain, where would that leave Northern Ireland?

Twenty years ago, the DUP's Gregory Campbell appeared in the controversial BBC programme At the Edge of the Union which profiled both him and Sinn Fein's Martin McGuinness.

During an interview for Radio Ulster's Inside Politics, I suggested to the East Londonderry MP that, if Scotland were to choose independence, that could leave him and his fellow unionists falling off the edge of that union.

Gregory Campbell doesn't seem too concerned. He believes that, even if the SNP gain power, most Scottish people value their Britishness and won't opt for independence.

However he also adds that, were Scotland to go it alone, Ulster people would still retain their special Ulster-Scots connection with their Scottish cousins.

Although he prefers maintaining the union, the DUP MP hints that, in the very long term, maybe an independent Ulster could take its place in a future Europe of small nations.

Whilst Sinn Fein is campaigning for the unification of the western island in this archipelago, the SNP is lobbying for the partition of the eastern isle.

But the Sinn Fein MLA for North Antrim, Daithi McKay, isn't going to let that stop him cheering on those he views as his fellow nationalists.

Daithi McKay argues that the Scottish people should control their own oil and other natural resources and should be able to decide whether their soldiers fight in conflicts like the Iraq war.

He believes devolution inevitably leads local politicians to demand more powers and local people to demand more accountability.

Gregory Campbell begs to differ. He doesn't believe that, by supporting devolution, his party has opened a separatist Pandora's box.

However, the DUP MP acknowledges the Scottish political situation is complicating the new Executive's pursuit of a peace dividend, which he thinks is unlikely to be satisfactorily resolved this side of the Scottish election.

During the St Andrews negotiations, the DUP demanded, amongst other things, an enhanced British-Irish Council to bolster east-west links.

For unionists, this is an important symbolic counterweight to the north-south institutions created by the Good Friday Agreement.

It's too early to say whether the council will be any more dynamic than it has been previously.

But the combination of Scottish nationalism on the march and the English beginning to assert their slumbering sense of identity means that, in the future, unionists may have to come to terms with some changing political realities across these isles.

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I wish more Scottish were in favour of independence but I'm hoping the idea becomes more popular as I think it's the best move they could possibly make. It would also help us Northern Irish push the idea harder and perhaps accomplish independence, although I've always wanted the North to be unified with the Republic of Ireland.

My life long dream has been to have the British out of Northern Ireland, and as far as I'm concerned, the ones that want them there are nothing but traitors to our country. If they want to be part of Britain so badly they should take the ferry over and not return and leave Northern Ireland to us true Irish that treasure our country and our heritage.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If independence is the way it goes, I wish our friends north of the boarder all the best. I remember GG saying that there's enough oil in the North Sea to make most people in Scotland fairly rich.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note the 2 cartoons of McConnell on :
http://www.georgegalloway.com/

Galloway's 'Mini Me' jibe

New Labour's Scottish First Minister Jack McConnell was flayed by George Galloway as a 'Mini Me to Doctor Evil, Tony Blair' on a day's speaking tour in Glasgow.

Galloway was speaking in support of Tommy Sheridan, the Solidarity leader, in a barnstorming trip which took in rallies in Edinburgh and Glasgow on Wednesday, culminating in a sell-out hustings meeting at the Royal Concert Hall. Sheridan is fighting to retain his Glasgow seat in the May 3 Scottish Assembly election

Speaking as someone who had been in the front line of Scottish Labour politics for 36 years - and taking inspiration from the Austin Powers movie - Galloway said, "If Tony Blair is Doctor Evil, and he is, then Jack McConnell is Mini Me. And a very mini Minie Me." McConnell was, the Respect MP continued, the worst Scottish leader in living memory, "and that includes Henry McLeish."
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Popinjay wrote:
If independence is the way it goes, I wish our friends north of the boarder all the best. I remember GG saying that there's enough oil in the North Sea to make most people in Scotland fairly rich.


By Blair selfishly hanging on, and by MPs not having the stomach to unseat him, then Blair has only himself to blame if the voters give him & England a big kick up the backside. People don't "divorce" for no reason .. in this case, unreasonable, irresponsible actions of a central government which is prepared to waste so much resources on overseas conquests which are not in the interests of the British citizens, and who wish all citizens to be obedient slaves who can be milked for money and man-power.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GG_Fan wrote:
Popinjay wrote:
If independence is the way it goes, I wish our friends north of the boarder all the best. I remember GG saying that there's enough oil in the North Sea to make most people in Scotland fairly rich.


By Blair selfishly hanging on, and by MPs not having the stomach to unseat him, then Blair has only himself to blame if the voters give him & England a big kick up the backside. People don't "divorce" for no reason .. in this case, unreasonable, irresponsible actions of a central government which is prepared to waste so much resources on overseas conquests which are not in the interests of the British citizens, and who wish all citizens to be obedient slaves who can be milked for money and man-power.


I agree. I'm completely ashamed of England not being able to do the same as the Scots and rid themselves of New Labour with a credible left-wing alternative.
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