FIA Boss - Nazi Sex Scandal

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How could anyone not believe the son of Oswald Mosley when he says that it was all just a coincidence that he was caught up in a Nazi dungeon sex video? Some people are so cynical!

It begs the question of just how many other 'important' people are up this type of shenanigan.

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so Mosley won his court case in which he claimed that he wasn't actually involved in a nazi-style S+M orgy, but just any run-of-the-mill S+M orgy with Nazi uniforms and barked commands in German!

I wish this had been one of those stories that I'd copied rather than embedded now... I'm sure it will be on some other site, so I'll try and find it (it's been removed from google cache and isn't on archive.org). I'll be posting it purely as an example of legalities and how they can be applied of course - not as some kind of enduring record.

[major.tom]

I think I found the article on google cache. Feel free to cut/paste it from this post into your original post...

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Nice one major, now we just need the sordid pics, and here we go. History... it smells like leather and lubricant.

[seshme]

I don't see any nazi uniforms in these pictures.

I don't know much about the story though because I wouldn't read that scum rag.

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why do you come here seshme? If you want to be a dead weight, there's a million other sites that would suit your incisive wit.

Meanwhile, here's a pic of Mosley's dad and aunt - no connection implied of course.

[seshme]

I come here because there is some interesting stuff and good links.

Is there some Orwellian groupthought agenda I need to sign up to?

Mosely was a tosser, decent chance his son probably is too but I'm interested in truth not suddenly quoting the scum at the NOTW as gospel just because you don't like the look of the person they are lying about on this occasion.

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here's a video for as long as it lasts.

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[nekokate]

Love the video. "They abuse their victims who are dressed as camp prisoners".

Ooh, stop abusing me, you silly goose!

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Hitler? He got things done, says Formula One chief Bernie Ecclestone
July 4, 2009
(Ben Gurr/The Times)

Bernie Ecclestone, the Formula One chief, said yesterday that he preferred totalitarian regimes to democracies and praised Adolf Hitler for his ability to “get things done”. In an outspoken interview with The Times, the 78-year-old billionaire chastised contemporary politicians for their weakness and extolled the virtues of strong leadership.

Mr Ecclestone said: “In a lot of ways, terrible to say this I suppose, but apart from the fact that Hitler got taken away and persuaded to do things that I have no idea whether he wanted to do or not, he was in the way that he could command a lot of people, able to get things done. In the end he got lost, so he wasn’t a very good dictator because either he had all these things and knew what was going on and insisted, or he just went along with it . . . so either way he wasn’t a dictator.” He also rounded on democracy, claiming that “it hasn’t done a lot of good for many countries — including this one [Britain]”.

Instead, Mr Ecclestone endorsed the concept of a government based on tyranny. “Politicians are too worried about elections,” he said. “We did a terrible thing when we supported the idea of getting rid of Saddam Hussein. He was the only one who could control that country. It was the same [with the Taleban]. We move into countries and we have no idea of the culture. The Americans probably thought Bosnia was a town in Miami. There are people starving in Africa and we sit back and do nothing but we get involved in things we should leave alone.”

Mr Ecclestone, who plunged the Blair Government into a row about donations in 1997 after it emerged that he had given the party £1 million, has a reputation for being outspoken. Last month he said that Formula One needed a “black, Jewish woman who, if possible, wins some races”. In 2008 he provoked uproar when he suggested racist comments directed at Lewis Hamilton on websites in the build-up to the Brazilian Grand Prix “started as just a joke”. However, he told The Times yesterday that he was deeply concerned when he saw fans “blacking up” to mock Hamilton, an act he described as racist.

However, his latest comments could prove deeply damaging. Claiming he likes “strong leaders”, such as Margaret Thatcher, Mr Ecclestone suggested that Max Mosley, his close friend, the president of the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), would make a good Prime Minister. Mr Mosley, the son of Sir Oswald Mosley, the leader of the British Union of Fascists, was recently accused by Formula One racing teams of being a “dictator”.

Mr Ecclestone said: “I prefer strong leaders. Margaret Thatcher made decisions on the run and got the job done. She was the one who built this country up slowly. We’ve let it go down again. All these guys, Gordon and Tony, are trying to please everybody all the time. Max would do a super job. He’s a good leader with people. I don’t think his background would be a problem.”

Mr Ecclestone’s remarks last night drew a strong reaction from Jewish groups and politicians. A spokesman for the Board of Deputies of British Jews said: “Mr Ecclestone’s comments regarding Hitler, female, black and Jewish racing drivers, and dictatorships are quite bizarre. He says [in the interview], ‘Politics is not for me’, and we are inclined to agree.” Stephen Pollard, Editor of the Jewish Chronicle, said: “Mr Ecclestone is either an idiot or morally repulsive. Either he has no idea how stupid and offensive his views are or he does and deserves to be held in contempt by all decent people.”

Denis MacShane, the Labour MP and chairman of the all-party inquiry into anti-Semitism, and chairman of the European Institute for the Study of Contemporary Anti-Semitism, condemned Mr Ecclestone’s decision to align himself to a “growing” anti-democracy movement. “Of course democracy and the politicians are imperfect and full of fault,” he said. “But this fashionable contempt for the right of people to elect their own leaders is frankly frightening. If Mr Ecclestone seriously thinks Hitler had to be persuaded to kill six million Jews, invade every European country and bomb London then he knows neither history and shows a complete lack of judgment.”

John Whittingdale, the Tory chairman of the Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee, said: “These are extraordinary views and I’m appalled that anybody could hold them.”

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There's nothing wrong with Formula One that a world war wouldn't sort!

[luke]

i wonder what he means with 'got taken away and persuaded to do things'? taken away by who? persuaded to do what?

[major.tom]

[Skylace]

[luke]

Just days after praising Hitler, now Bernie Ecclestone 'blames Jews for banking crisis'

Bernie Ecclestone was forced to apologise after being accused of spouting 'demented drivel ' when speaking in praise of Adolf Hitler and accusing Jews of failing to solve the world's financial crisis.

The 78-year-old billionaire caused outrage when he spoke of the Nazi dictator's ability to 'get things done '.

In the same interview, the Formula One mogul claimed Hitler was 'persuaded to do things that I have no idea whether he wanted to or not.'

His comments provoked a massive row.

But when he was subsequently informed that the World Jewish Congress had called for his resignation, Ecclestone reacted again.

'It's a pity they didn't sort the banks out,' he said. ' When asked to elaborate he countered: ' They have a lot of influence everywhere.'

His additional comments prompted a further furore - and quickly sparked suggestions of a boycott of Formula One by German owned motor racing teams who include BMW and Mercedes.

A spokesman for Germany's Central Council of Jews said: 'No team should work with him any more - a boycott would be more than appropriate.'

He also added that Ecclestone was either 'empty headed or unbelievably malicious' for speaking about Hitler days before the German Grand Prix takes place this weekend.

Ecclestone's original comments, made in an interview with The Times, provoked equal outrage as Liberal Democrat Sport spokesman Don Foster described them as 'the ravings of a demented lunatic.'

Tory John Whittingdale , chairman of the Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee, said he was 'appalled' anybody could hold such 'extraordinary views.'

Three days after the publication of the interview, Ecclestone yesterday wrote an article of apology.

He also told the Jewish Chronicle : ' I'm just sorry that I was an idiot. I sincerely, genuinely apologise.

' What I regret is people who have taken this the wrong way and have been offended. I'm really, really sad about that because I have done an awful lot for Jewish communities throughout - charities and whatever.'

He insisted 'things were taken a little bit wrong' and his praise of the German tyrant was 'not what he meant' before adding: 'Those who don't know me think I support Hitler's atrocities; those who do know me have told me how unwise I was to articulate my points so badly that it should have been so widely misunderstood.

'During the 1930s Germany was facing an economic crisis but Hitler was able to rebuild the economy, building the autobahns and German industry.

'That was all I meant when I referred to him getting things done.

'I'm an admirer of good leadership, of politicians who stand by their convictions and tell the voters the truth.

'I'm not an admirer of dictators, who rule by terror.'

In another interview, he added: 'Hitler brought a country that was bankrupt into a country that was very strong and that was really demonstrating what someone could do if they had the power and didn't have to keep back and referring every five minutes.

'The trouble with politicians and democracy is they all the time have to compromise, they can't do what they want to do because there is somebody in opposition. I regret it didn't come out like that.'

In The Times interview, Ecclestone also referred to close friend Max Mosley who is President of the motor racing body, the FIA.

He then suggested the son of British fascist Sir Oswald Mosley would do a 'super job' as Prime Minister.

Mosley fought a privacy battle with a Sunday newspaper after he was exposed enjoying what was described as a Nazi-themed sadomasochistic orgy.

However, a judge later ruled there was no evidence of the 'Nazi theme' and Ecclestone said of Mosley:

'He's a good leader with people. I don't think his background would be a problem.'