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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:14 am    Post subject: Slavery LITE® Reply with quote



Who would ever think that being forced to pick cotton wasn't going to cause grief?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mere fact that this dolt calls the House bill "anti-immigrant" rather than what it really is, which is "anti illegal immigrant" says plenty to me. Sorry, but cutting in line before all the other people who apply to come to this country legally just doesn't swing well with me. Being married to an immigrant myself, as well as having a few family members that are immigrants, I'm more than happy to have new immigrants move here. Also, I love how this idiot tries to make this all a racist thing. That's all these leftist idiots have. If a parolee can find a better paying job great, they certainly shouldn't be forced to work in the fields, but if they think that the taxpayers should pay for their housing and food while they sit on their ass and do absolutely nothing, I think not. I don't care what color they are.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, does that mean you're happy with the economy of Georgia and Alabama being destroyed? I'm further on the left than most, but that doesn't mean I don't understand the importance of the economy.

As an aside, $11 an hour to most people in the world is a huge amount of money.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$11 an hour works out at £6.86 which is a fair bit more than the minimum wage n the UK.

I would have thought that a parolee might have found it somewhere between difficult and near impossible to get work so here is a solution....not ideal but then very little is in a capitalist world is it?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you believe it's a capitalist world then that's what you'll accept.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well we certainly don't live in a socialist, communist or any other ist world that I can see....Sadly.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If only I'd have had such a defeatist attitude I could be a millionaire by now...

fuck's sake.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a big difference between realism and defeatism.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's realistic about getting rid of willing cheap labour only to be forced into replacing them with ex-prisoners? These right-wing anti-immigration/racist lunatics, with their stars and stripes flags planted firmly up their arses, are actually working against capitalism.

They've got rid of a system that worked for the capitalists and the workers out of the spiteful belief that this new system will work. What's realistic about that? It will destroy many businesses and leave only the richest. Maybe that's what these right-wing maniacs want to see? The conglomeration of smaller farms into massive industrial units, the profits of which would likely go out of the state?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aaahh.....you're making a point about the law itself...i was only taking about dealing with the aftermath.

Oh yes...caused by narrow minded right wing shite hawks who can't even see the outcome of a policy they think is good for them and their ilk is only hurting the (no doubt) rich white farmers.

It's a lose-lose situation really.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will affect everyone in those states, not just the rich. With less tax being paid by the local farmers, local services will suffer, local businesses will close and many small towns will end up as ghost-towns.

It's akin to Thatcher getting rid of the coal-mining and steel industry, leaving large swathes of the country bereft. Of course, in the long term that will send enough people into poverty that they will then be prepared to do the shit jobs that the migrant workers were doing.

But what's 10 years of hardship to the poor when the gnashing middle-classes demand action on something that they might not like, but which is necessary if they wish to maintain their position?

There is of course the entire idea of the ex-prisoners being majority black - a situation caused, by their being in poverty in the first place.

This situation is so twisted around the little fingers of bigots and fools that it's almost laughable.
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